There were complaints regarding planning and as of March 2014 the Council may have to undergo special measures due to ongoing problems with planning at Stockport Council.
Local Government Ombudsman response re SMBC complaints 2008
Snoozing watch pussycats Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 09:28- Comments(0) https://blogging.sheilaoliver.org/?p=962
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Council tells Secretary of State Harcourt Street was not open space, what was it then?
Vale View School Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 09:22- Comments(0) https://blogging.sheilaoliver.org/?p=961
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The reasons the police won’t disclose their documents on Mr Parnell RIP
Town Hall Protester Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 09:16“Factor against the disclosure of information is: loss of confidence in the public authority to protect the well-being of the community.”
Quite!
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Inspector Clitherow did meet with Mrs Parnell subsequent to this
Town Hall Protester Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 09:1122 October 2013 18:46
Sheila,
Could you confirm then if you would like to meet? I have received no complaint from Mrs Parnell or any desire for me to contact her. I am happy for you to forward her my details if she would like to meet and discuss this.
Thanks
Alan
Insp Alan Clitherow
J1 North INPT
X 69701
Mobile 07795 811575
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Lord Goddard and Mr Parnell RIP Another email from Inspector Clitherow
Town Hall Protester Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 09:0521 October 2013 12:4
Sheila,
I have received notification of the freedom of information request. I fully understand your point regarding meeting for meeting sake however whilst this request is processed I would like to sit down and discuss the case and the conversations I had with Mr Parnell.
As you know I only dealt with this issue after July ’12 and the issues you highlight below were prior to this.
Mr Parnell is not a criminal and our records clearly show the details of his arrests and the public records show he was not convicted. I am more than happy to address the police elements of your email but there are other elements that should be directed to the Council.
I would be grateful if you would agree to meet this matter requires resolution.
Many thanks
Alan
Insp Alan Clitherow
J1 North INPT
X 69701
Mobile 07795 811575
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Email from Inspector Clitherow
Town Hall Protester Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 09:0214 October 2013 17:26Sheila,
I have already reviewed the below incident with Mr Parnell but am happy to discuss the matter with you. Could you let me know what days / hours suit you and I will see when we can meet.
This is a complex case which am more than happy to look into and try to resolve to the satisfaction of (hopefully) everyone concerned.
I did have productive conversations with Mr Parnell regarding his wishes in terms of resolution which I have addressed although I couldn’t do everything he wished and regrettably was not able to give him an update as he went into hospital several days after our last meeting.
I am concerned by the mention of this case on Twitter, I do not think it is a subject for discussion in such a forum. Should you still have a grievance following our meeting you are of course free to discuss as you wish but already key elements of comments on twitter are inaccurate and do little to help resolve this.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Alan
Insp Alan Clitherow
J1 North INPT
X 69701
Mobile 07795 811575
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Brand new school needs safety remedial work and it is vexatious to ask about it!
Vale View School Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 08:55Email sent – 22 December 2013 14:04
Attn Mr Barry Khan Legal Advisor to the Stockport Borough Council
Dear Mr Khan
As you are aware, my FOIA case is now before the FTT and it will continue through to the UT.
In the meantime, the Vale View school is operating in a legal void owing to lightning defects. You have made false statements to the ICO ref the facts on the Vale View school Ref the Lightning Protection System (LPS).
For the avoidance of doubt for ALL parties the Vale View school LPS is unsafe and unfit for purpose and it is NOT what it is purported to be by you and the ICO.
It beggars belief how you can argue my FOIA request is vexatious when you actually released the sought after data i.e., Lightning Protection Data.
You have simply failed to provide the LPS risk assessment and the LPS test results for the remedial LPS works. It also beggars belief that a Brand New school would require any LPS remedial works…..
With thanks
Yours sincerely
Alan M Dransfield
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Sigh, Khan again – glad he is going
Vale View School Posted on Tue, March 18, 2014 08:40Email sent 17 October 2013 06:15
Attn Mr Barry Khan SBC Solicitor
Dear Mr Khan
As you are aware, I am on record that the Stockport Borough Council and you in particular are guilty of criminal negligence in allowing the Vale View School to operate in a legal void due to serious H&S violations previosly recorded and in BOLD CAPITALS below.
The ICO are currently considering this appeal but I wish you to reconsider my H&S issues raised below.
With thanks
Yours sincerely
Alan M Dransfield
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From: alan dransfield
To: Barry Khan
Cc: headteacher Valeview
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Vale View Primary School
Dear Mr Khan
I acknowledge and thank you for your following letter and I do thank you for the confirmation that you are considering my request to visit the Vale View school for a co-inspection of the faults I have raised, which, quite frankly, I think it is the best way to resolve this matter. For ease of future readers, I have responded to your comments via Red Capital Letters.
There is nothing in your letter which would cause me to withdraw my claim the Vale View school is operating in a legal void.
With thanks
Yours sincerely
Alan M Dransfield
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On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Barry Khan <barry.khan@stockport.gov.uk> wrote
Dear Mr Dransfield
I refer to my e-mail of the 4 th January 2012 and your e-mails in reply, namely:
· Two e-mails dated 5 th January 2012
· E-mail dated 6 th January 2012
· E-mail dated 7 th January 2012
· Two e-mails dated 9 th January 2012
· E-mail dated 13 th January 2012
· E-mail dated 14 th January 2012
· E-mail dated 15 th January 2012
· Email dated 20 th January 2012
As requested in your e-mails, I have re-checked the position on whether the football pitch has actually been built and I can re-confirm the position I stated on the 4 th January, namely:
‘I have been informed that the football pitch has been built to Sport England Standards as part of the original contract. All the drainage has been installed as the plans previously sent and all works including alterations to the existing outfalls have been completed”
With regard to your request on the 4 th January – ‘Please double check if the school has been built.” – I can confirm that the school has been built.
THIS SHOULD READ HAS THE FOOTBALL PITCH BEEN BUILT
The issue with regard to producing the ‘as built’ drawings for this school, is that I have been informed that we do not have a copy of the plans on CD. I have been informed that the School only holds paper copies of the drawings (as opposed to the plans for the Council’s Fred Perry House which we have electronically). However I understand that you are in communication with the Council’s Freedom of Information team and if you wish to request a review of any response to any FOI request, then please can you contact them directly. You have raised issues with myself with regard to the legal position of the School and I have addressed those concerns. I can confirm from the information that has been provided to me that I am happy to confirm that the school does not operate in a ‘legal void’ as suggested.
IT BEGGARS BELIEF THE AS BUILT DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN RETAINED IN HARD COPY ONLY.
I can confirm that I have been informed that all the details with regard to the drainage have been built as shown on the ‘as built’ drawings. Again there seems to be some confusion as you state that there is no physical evidence on the site of a Control Panel, however I have been informed that there is in fact a warning panel located in the school.
THE CONTROL PANEL IS/SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO BE INSTALLED OUTDOORS TO ENABLE THE FLASHING WARMING LIGHTS TO BE SEEN.
THE DRAINAGE DRAWINGS PROVIDED TO ME ARE “PROPOSALS ONLY”
With regard to your request for gas monitoring I understand that this has already been answered under your FOI request reference 4873 and a copy of the Site Completion Report has been sent to you. In addition I understand that additional information regarding risk assessments have been sent to you with regard to your FOI request 4436 including a report entitled “Harcourt Street, Site won soil Verification.”
RISK ASSESSMENT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED TO ME.
With regard to the fishing pond, the attached link shows that there was an existing drainage system which was installed in 1983 and approved by Sports England, which outfalls to the existing pond. The new scheme plans show that the football fields surface water only now drains to the pond to maintain the system. I have been informed that it is incorrect to state that any of the car park drains to this and this is not what the plan shows. In addition the following documents show that the Environment Agency and United Utilities were consulted regarding the proposed surface water runoff:
THE CHEMICAL FERTILIZERS APPLIED TO THE FOOTBALL PITCH WILL BE DRAINED INTO THE POND WHICH IS NOT ECO FRIENDLY.
http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/mvmedrms.asp?DCNumber=DC024357
Appropriate ecological assessments were carried out prior to the development (Badgers, Great Crested Newt etc ) – and these documents can be found at the above link. In addition the pond is still used for fishing and we have not received any complaints that the eco system has been affected. The Environmental Health Department have been notified and approved the measures on the site.
Also, as stated previously the lightning protection system for this school has been installed in accordance with the B.S standards and successfully tested 12 months following installation.
YOU FAILED TO QUOTE THE RELEVANT BS STANDARDS, HENCE PLEASE ALLOW ME. THE RELEVANT STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO THE BUILD WERE BS6651 WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN REPLACED BY BS-EN 62305/2008 WHICH ARE APPLICABLE TO THE OPERATIONAL PHASE AND THIS STANDARD MANDATES A LIGHTNING RISK ASSESSMENT. WHICH YOU DO NOT HAVE.
IN THE EVENT YOUR SCHOOL IS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING AND SUBSEQUENT FIRE THE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE WOULD BE REVOKED DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF LIGHTNING RISK ASSESSMENT.
I am sorry that you consider my previous response was inappropriate and that you wish to make a complaint about me. I can therefore confirm as requested that I am a solicitor and a member of the Law Society. Similarly I would also be grateful if you could inform the Council of your professional qualifications, current employment etc so that the Council can consider the appropriateness of arranging a meeting as you have requested to discuss technical points regarding the construction of a school.
IN REGARD TO MY PERSONAL DETAILS AND PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, THEY ARE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT
AND I DO NOT INTEND TO PROVIDE ANY PERSONAL DETAILS OTHER THAN MY NAME.
I do however hope that the above and the answers to the previous requests shows how the school and the Council have taken health and safety matters very seriously with regard to the School. You have made repeated requests for a number of items which have previously been answered and the Council respectfully asks you to reconsider the number of requests you make in the future about this building as the Council is concerned with regard to the amount of time that is being spent answering repeated requests with regard to this matter that is diverting resources from other matters. If the issues that you raised uncovered serious concerns about the construction or operation of the school then the Council would have taken a very different view to these requests but this is not the position.
I HAVE MADE REPEATED FOIA REQUESTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE THE SOUGHT AFTER DATA.
THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS LETTER WHICH CONVINCES ME THAT YOU OR THE SBC OR THE SCHOOL ARE TAKING H & S ISSUES SERIOUSLY.
If you wish to make a complaint against the Council as you have requested, then you can follow the Council’s complaints procedure which can be found at:
http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/councildemocracy/yourcouncil/complaintsabouservices/corporatecomplaints/complaintsprocedure
This attached link has a ‘Compliments and Complaints Leaflet’ attached which shows how you can make a complaint against the Council. If you wish to follow this procedure please complete the attached form and send it to the Improvement & Performance Officer (Complaints), who is nominated by the Chief Executive who will deal with the complaint under Stage 2 of the procedure.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLAINT DETAILS AND I WILL IN DUE COURSE BE SUBMITTING A FORMAL COMPLAINT.
Kind regards
Barry Khan
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From: Barry Khan <barry.khan@stockport.gov.uk>
Date: 17 October 2013 11:51:47 BST
To: “‘alan dransfield'” <alanmdransfield@gmail.com>
Cc: BRADSHAW Ben <BradshawBP@parliament.uk>, Paul Dye <Paul.Dye@ofsted.gov.uk>, Richard Bailey <Richard.Bailey@ico.gsi.gov.uk>, Headteacher Valeview <headteacher@valeview.stockport.sch.uk>
Subject: RE: Stockport Borough Council Safety Failures
Dear Mr Dransfield,
I wish to re-iterate my previous position that the School is not operating in a legal void and that the appropriate health and safety requirements have been complied with.
Kind regards
Barry Khan
Council Solicitor
Service Director (Legal, Democratic, Property and Information Services)
Corporate & Support Services
Stockport Council
E-mail Address: Barry.khan@stockport.gov.uk
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