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Why on earth did they say this was being vexatious?

Vale View School Posted on Thu, February 01, 2024 13:23

Lisa Smart’s eventual response

Dear Mrs Oliver.


Thank you for the question you submitted to the full council meeting last week. 

It is especially pleasing to hear that our newsletter delivery network is working as it should. We usually rely on party members and supporters to let us know when they receive a leaflet so that we can monitor the effectiveness of our deliverers and I’m delighted that you have added yourself to their number by keeping us informed. Thank you.

Your question related to the questions you have previously submitted to me and I list below the questions I am aware of.

Question submitted to Full Council meeting of 4th October, 2023

As the questioner was present, both Cllr Angie Clark and I responded verbally to this question. The webcast is available for viewing on the council website should anyone wish to watch it.

Question submitted to Full Council meeting of 16th November, 2023

I believe that a question was submitted to me but was deemed to be on a matter previously determined as vexatious by the Council’s Monitoring Officer. As the question relates to a site outside the ward I was elected to represent and dates back to matters five years before I was elected, I do not intend to comment further on this topic.



Cllrs Smart and Clark – do they really think this is OK?

Vale View School Posted on Thu, February 01, 2024 13:02

Councillor Lisa Smart/Councillor Angela Clark
Stockport Town Hall
Edward Street
Stockport
SK1 3XE
By Recorded Delivery

Date 10/10/2023

Dear Councillor Smart/Clark

You undertook at the full council meeting at Stockport Town Hall on 4th October 2023 to represent me.  My questions have been erroneously branded as being vexatious by Stockport Council from the last time it was under Liberal Democrat control.  It was claimed that I had been rude and offensive.  The Information Commissioner decided that I had not been rude and offensive, but was asking too many questions.   I have that evidence, as does Stockport Council.  The Council has no evidence of my ever having been rude or offensive.   I need you to examine the relevant evidence yourself and decide if the questions were rude, offensive, wasting councillor/officer time or in the interests of public safety or the public purse.  I draw your attention to the relevant government advice, which was in place at the time these questions were first raised:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/armchair-auditors-are-here-to-stay

It is an offence under the Fraud Act 2006 to act deliberately to cause someone (in this instance the council taxpayer) a loss.

Section 2 – Fraud by False Representation It is an offence to commit fraud by false representation. The representation must be made dishonestly. The person must make the representation with the intention of making a gain or causing loss or risk of loss to another.

  1.  You are building the Vale View School too small deliberately, I told Stockport Council.  Your question is vexatious and you are wasting our valuable time with your constant questions, they replied.

My question to the full council meeting – deemed vexatious.

  • But the Council knew in April 2006 that the school was being built too small, so why was my council meeting question on the subject deemed vexatious in February 2008?
  • The birthrate in the area was rising sharply.

The Council stated in the minutes of a meeting on 26th April 2006 that 555 pupils needed a place at Vale View School, so the above FOI response would appear to be incorrect – also an offence to give an untrue response.

  • On 10th of March 2006 the Council knew the school was being built too small.  “I stress the need for confidentiality.”

After the school opened it was admitted that a share of 81 million pounds would have to be spent on school places in North Reddish.

I look forward to your decision as to whether this was well-researched questioning about which nothing was done, or my being a nuisance to busy and important council officers and councillors.  It is a simple matter for you to read through this evidence.  There will be no need to drag this out over weeks and months and I look forward to your response with interest.

Yours

Sheila Oliver

c.c. Councillor David Meller

Town Hall

Stockport

SK1 3XE

Councillor Smart’s response eventually extracted from her:-

Dear Mrs Oliver.


Thank you for the question you submitted to the full council meeting last week. 

It is especially pleasing to hear that our newsletter delivery network is working as it should. We usually rely on party members and supporters to let us know when they receive a leaflet so that we can monitor the effectiveness of our deliverers and I’m delighted that you have added yourself to their number by keeping us informed. Thank you.

Your question related to the questions you have previously submitted to me and I list below the questions I am aware of.

Question submitted to Full Council meeting of 4th October, 2023

As the questioner was present, both Cllr Angie Clark and I responded verbally to this question. The webcast is available for viewing on the council website should anyone wish to watch it.

Question submitted to Full Council meeting of 16th November, 2023

I believe that a question was submitted to me but was deemed to be on a matter previously determined as vexatious by the Council’s Monitoring Officer. As the question relates to a site outside the ward I was elected to represent and dates back to matters five years before I was elected, I do not intend to comment further on this topic.



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Are LibDem Councillors Smart/Clark willfully blind to LibDem corruption?

LibDem Councillors, Lisa Smart LibDem PPC, North Reddish Primary School, SMBC FOI, Vale View School, Vicki Bates, Monitoring Officer, Stockport Council Posted on Sat, December 02, 2023 07:45

They promised in the full council meeting of 4th of October that they would represent me. No response yet to this letter to them.

Councillor Lisa Smart/Councillor Angela Clark
Stockport Town Hall
Edward Street
Stockport
SK1 3XE

Date 10/10/2023

Dear Councillor Smart/Clark

You undertook at the full council meeting at Stockport Town Hall on 4th October 2023 to represent me.  My questions have been erroneously branded as being vexatious by Stockport Council from the last time it was under Liberal Democrat control.  It was claimed that I had been rude and offensive.  The Information Commissioner decided that I had not been rude and offensive, but was asking too many questions.   I have that evidence, as does Stockport Council.  The Council has no evidence of my ever having been rude or offensive.   I need you to examine the relevant evidence yourself and decide if the questions were rude, offensive, wasting councillor/officer time or in the interests of public safety or the public purse.  I draw your attention to the relevant government advice, which was in place at the time these questions were first raised:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/armchair-auditors-are-here-to-stay

It is an offence under the Fraud Act 2006 to act deliberately to cause someone (in this instance the council taxpayer) a loss.

Section 2 – Fraud by False Representation It is an offence to commit fraud by false representation. The representation must be made dishonestly. The person must make the representation with the intention of making a gain or causing loss or risk of loss to another.

  1.  You are building the Vale View School too small deliberately, I told Stockport Council.  Your question is vexatious and you are wasting our valuable time with your constant questions, they replied.

My question to the full council meeting – deemed vexatious.

  • But the Council knew in April 2006 that the school was being built too small, so why was my council meeting question on the subject deemed vexatious in February 2008?
  • The birthrate in the area was rising sharply.

The Council stated in the minutes of a meeting on 26th April 2006 that 555 pupils needed a place at Vale View School, so the above FOI response would appear to be incorrect – also an offence to give an untrue response.

  • On 10th of March 2006 the Council knew the school was being built too small.  “I stress the need for confidentiality.”
  • After the school opened it was admitted that a share of 81 million pounds would have to be spent on school places including North Reddish.

I look forward to your decision as to whether this was well-researched questioning about which nothing was done, or my being a nuisance to busy and important council officers and councillors.  It is a simple matter for you to read through this evidence.  There will be no need to drag this out over weeks and months and I look forward to your response with interest.

Yours

Sheila Oliver

c.c. Councillor David Meller

Town Hall

Stockport

SK1 3XE



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Councillor Roberts was made aware of the sewage problem at least as early as 2016. (Comment 5).

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WHAT’S COMING UP AT CHEADLE AREA COMMITTEE 27TH SEPT 2016

by Lib Dem Team on 21 September, 2016

The next Cheadle Area Committee meeting starts at 6pm on Tuesday 27th September 2016. It’s in the hall at the Kingsway School (Foxland Road campus) and, as ever, everyone is welcome to come along.

Lots of projects the Lib Dem team have been working on appear on the agenda this time.

  • A petition from residents calling on the council “to fill in the puddles on the Ladybrook/Mickerbrook footpath, as the path is currently impassable”.
  • Open Forum discussion on the current anti-social behaviour causing problems in the Councillor Lane and Lavington Avenue areas. Representatives from the Council and Police will be attending.
  • Funding applications from Cheadle Village Partnership (for the Victorian Market) and Cheadle & Gatley Junior Football Club (for a storage container).
  • Planning application 62110 – extension at rear and new shop front for 7a Wilmslow Road, Cheadle.
  • Proposal to improve signage to Abney Hall Park.
  • Report on how applications for the £25,000 to reduce loneliness among over-50s is progressing.
  • Application to make Newboult Road allotments an Asset of Community Value (ACV)
  • Discussion of options to stop people driving the wrong way along Gatley Green
  • Proposal to prevent parking along a section of Wilmslow Road near the Southgate Business Park
  • Proposal for short sections of yellow lines to prevent parked vehicles blocking access on Wood Street and around the car park by St Marys Church.
  • Proposal for double yellow lines at the junction of Chadvil and Milton in Cheadle
  • Proposal for double yellow lines at the junction of Hawthorn, Cedar and Burnside in Gatley – near Gatley Primary. This is to stop people parking right on the junction, which can be a problem at the start and end of school. The proposal came from the school children themselves as part of work they have done on how to make the roads outside the school safer.
  • Proposal for double yellow lines at the junction of Braystan Gardens and the A34 on the South Park Road Estate to improve visibility for cars leaving the estate.
  • Proposal for double yellow lines on the inside of the sharp bend on South Park Road to avoid the road being narrowed too much by parked cars at that point.
  • Agreement between councillors as to who will lay wreaths at each Remembrance Day service on behalf of Stockport Council.

You can read the full agenda here.6 Comments

6 Responses

  1.  Alex Masidlover says:September 21, 2016 at 9:00 am“Proposal for double yellow lines at the junction of Hawthorn, Cedar and Burnside in Gatley – near Gatley Primary. This is to stop people parking right on the junction, which can be a problem at the start and end of school.”This might help to address the symptom of the underlying problem (if the lines are enforced!) – however, the problem is that so many parents drop their children by car and that the streets within 500m (5 mins walk) of the school are all very narrow.Could consideration be given to opening the Scholes Field Pavillion car park to Gatley Primary Parents at pick up and drop off? Obviously there won’t be enough space for all and there will still be a minority of motorists who insist on parking nearer; as 10 minutes of their time is more important than the safety of children…Reply
  2.  Lib Dem Team says:September 21, 2016 at 9:03 amHi Alex – yes. I had a meeting with the school a couple of weeks ago and using the pavilion car park was one of the options we discussed, so it’s being actively investigated.Reply
  3.  Garry says:September 25, 2016 at 10:54 amMore yellow lines… yet the ones we already have aren’t being enforced. I’ve reported to the council directly and on these communications a few times. And still the double yellow lines are flouted on Oak Road. Many days shoppers and businesses park on them, in the evenings users of the Conservative Club park on them. This takes a long stretch of already narrow road down to one lane. Exasperated by being on the junction of a main road. So before we have more, can we enforce those already in existence.Reply
  4.  Iain Roberts says:September 25, 2016 at 10:57 amHI Garry – it’s the same as everywhere, I think. Most people observe yellow lines so having them is definitely better than not. For those who ignore the rules, they risk getting a ticket. If you see the rules being broken, there’s a form you can use on the council website to ask the traffic wardens to come out.But there’s no way to physically stop people parking on yellow lines if they are willing to take the risk of getting a ticket.Reply
  5.  Julie McDonald says:September 27, 2016 at 3:50 pmGood to hear of 12 residents petition from Ladybridge Park estate around Ladybrook Valley footpath. What can you do? I’ve already had Mary Smith Stephen Watkins Healthy Rivers Trust Greenspace EA out there and meeting 1/7/16 looking at state of matters including holes in bridge at Warwick Close. I’ve received repeated requests from dog walkers for works to be done which I’ve passed to Mary Smiths office. There’s also a serious problem of sewerage within the water and banks of the brook resultant from CSO’s there’s 11 of them in a 9km stretch. I’m waiting on responses from EA under FOIA and brook pollution from several other sources is expected to be covered shortly by TV early October.Reply
    •  Lib Dem Team says:September 27, 2016 at 8:26 pmThere’s a positive response on the state of the path: the council is hoping to properly resurface and widen it next year with money from the Cycle City Ambition Grant.Reply

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