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Bypass – no minutes.

Anwar Majothi, Barry Khan, Bypass, Uncategorised Posted on Thu, November 20, 2025 08:21

20th November 2025

Mon 05/10/2009 16:46

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I am writing in response to your request for information below (ref 2161).

Please find attached a copy of the current Communications Plan.

The discussion you refer to with NPS was not minuted so no information is held in relation to this. The response from NPS about how it can assist will not be provided to you because the Council maintains that it is exempt under section 43(2) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOI Act) and Regulation 12(5)(e) of the Environmental Information Regulations 2004 (EIRs).

Disclosure of this information would prejudice the commercial interests of NPS because the tendering process is still underway; the Council has not yet made a decision about whether to use NPS or an alternative contractor. Disclosing information about NPS’ costs to the public at this time would give their competitors an unfair advantage. The Council has considered the public interest factors in this case and recognises that it is important that the Council is accountable for the public money it spends; however in this case no money has been spent to date because the information refers to rates and not public money which has already been spent. There is also a public interest in ensuring fair competition between companies which outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information for the purposes transparency in this case.

If you are unhappy with the way we have handled your request you are entitled to ask for an internal review. Any internal review will be carried out by a senior member of staff who was not involved with your original request. To ask for an internal review, contact foi.officer@stockport.gov.uk in the first instance.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of any internal review, you are entitled to complain to the Information Commissioner. To do so, contact:

Information Commissioner’s Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

www.ico.gov.uk

01625 545 745

Yours sincerely,

Claire Naven

Claire Naven

Data Protection & Freedom of Information Officer

Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council


From: Sheila Oliver [mailto:sheilaoliver@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 02 September 2009 17:49
To: FOI Officer
Subject: SEMMMS FOIA and EIR 2004

Dear Ms Naven

Stakeholder ManagementStakeholders need to be kept informed and encouraged to support schemeNew Communication Plan being developed to re-launch schemeWebsite updated Draft communication plan being discussed. Meeting 30th June JMM
Landowners need to manage expectations, access to land, CPO process – early sale discussionsDiscuss with NPS re their capability to do thisMeeting arranged 10th JuneNPS are preparing a response on how they can assist. Availability of Cheshire East Officers being investigatedJMM

Please may I have a copy of the communication plan.

Please may I have the minutes of the meeting arranged on 10th June with NPS and their response on how they can assist.

Yours

Mrs S J Oliver

FOIC Stockport

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Mon 05/10/2009 15:22

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I am writing in response to your request for information below (ref 2105).

None of the meetings you have listed were minuted apart from the meetings at points (i) and (v). You have already been provided with a copy of the minutes from the meeting with the DfT; in relation to the brief to Counsel, this has already been addressed in a previous request.

If you are unhappy with the way we have handled your request you are entitled to ask for an internal review. Any internal review will be carried out by a senior member of staff who was not involved with your original request. To ask for an internal review, contact foi.officer@stockport.gov.uk in the first instance.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of any internal review, you are entitled to complain to the Information Commissioner. To do so, contact:

Information Commissioner’s Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

www.ico.gov.uk

01625 545 745

Yours sincerely,

Claire Naven

Claire Naven

Data Protection & Freedom of Information Officer

Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council


From: Sheila Oliver [mailto:sheilaoliver@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 07 September 2009 17:53
To: FOI Officer
Subject: Re: FOI and EIR 2004 request A555 – Ref 2105 – Request for clarification

Ms Naven

I would like the minutes of any of those meetings listed which have taken place. It is in relation to the A555.  I said Mrs Stevenson would know and she would have done had you asked her.

Yours

FOIC Stockport

—– Original Message —–

From: FOI Officer

To: Sheila Oliver

Cc: FOI Officer

Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:40 PM

Subject: RE: FOI and EIR 2004 request A555 – Ref 2105 – Request for clarification

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I am writing in response to your request for information below (ref 2105).

Please can you clarify exactly what you are requesting? You appear to have cut and pasted a list from a set of minutes but have not actually stated what you are asking for. Are you seeking confirmation that these meetings have taken place? Are you seeking notes of the meetings? Please specify what you are requesting.

Yours sincerely,

Claire Naven

Claire Naven

Data Protection & Freedom of Information Officer

Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council


From: Sheila Oliver [mailto:sheilaoliver@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 10 August 2009 19:13
To: FOI Officer
Subject: FOI and EIR 2004 request A555

Hi

Please may I see the following;-

1.      Immediate first steps were discussed to propose to restart the project including meeting with:

                                i.      DfT

                              ii.      Consultants and ask for their views on delivering models and assistance with the scheme

                            iii.      CECA

                             iv.      Highways Agency Procurement and Major Scheme Specialist

                               v.      Legal and following on need Council’s opinion

                             vi.      NPS re. land support

                           vii.      Mouchels re. EA

                         viii.      Motts. Re. programme management assistance and modelling.

                             ix.      Procurement and finance officers invite to consultant event.

                               x.      Develop understanding of finance availability and profile

Mrs Stevenson will know where to look.

Kind regards

Sheila

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Wed 30/09/2009 12:53

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I am writing in response to your request for information below (ref 2160).

Please find attached the brief for consultants to respond to. The remaining information you requested is not held by the Council. The meeting with GONW has not yet taken place and the remaining meetings were not minuted.

If you are unhappy with the way we have handled your request you are entitled to ask for an internal review. Any internal review will be carried out by a senior member of staff who was not involved with your original request. To ask for an internal review, contact foi.officer@stockport.gov.uk in the first instance.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of any internal review, you are entitled to complain to the Information Commissioner. To do so, contact:

Information Commissioner’s Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

www.ico.gov.uk

01625 545 745

Yours sincerely,

Claire Naven

Claire Naven

Data Protection & Freedom of Information Officer

Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council

SEMMMS Relief Road – Proposed Consultancy Support

The three local authorities have agreed to continue to work together to deliver the SEMMMS Relief Road A6 to Airport scheme. They have agreed that Stockport Council will take the lead on managing the project.

The three authorities are starting to consider the assistance they will require to deliver the scheme and would like to receive proposals regarding the following areas of work.

  1. Project/Programme Management of the scheme. A review of the scheme progress to date and an identification of what needs to be done to take the scheme forward through planning to building on site.
  2. Support to develop the Major Scheme Business Case which must be approved within 9 months from 1st June.
  3. Creation of a Traffic Assessment report to support the planning application and an associated complimentary integration measures report which will be needed to support the planning application and Environmental Assessment and modelling.

The local authorities would like to receive a presentation on the first two elements of work on _________ as a documented proposal for all elements of the work. The documented proposal should be submitted by the 29th July to Sue Stevenson at Stockport MBC by electronic means and with three printed copies. The various elements of work will be awarded based on the quality and cost indications contained in the proposals and presentation.

The presentation time available is 1.5hrs per consultant and should focus on the review, your views on the next steps, project management arrangements and how you could support them. It is expected that staff who would be responsible for the project management would be part of the presentation team wherever practical.

The found individual elements of work require separate proposals including timescales, costs, the staff available and their experience to enable each proposal to be judged and awarded separately.

The work may be awarded to one or more consultants as individual elements could be delivered as part of the project team approach or alternatively one consultant could undertake all the elements if the appropriate resources are available.

It would be helpful if you could indicate whether you intend to submit a proposal and for which or all elements you intend to respond to.

Contact

Name:                              Sue Stevenson

Email:                               sue.stevenson@stockport.gov.uk

Telephone:                     0161 474 4351

Address:                          Hygarth House

                                           103 Wellington Road South

                                           Stockport

                                           SK1 3TT

  1. The project/programme management of the scheme is required to use an appropriate methodology e.g. Prince 2 to support the Project Board which contains representatives from Cheshire East, Manchester and Stockport and the Senior Responsible Owner – Jim McMahon from Stockport to deliver the scheme.

The project management will need to demonstrate that it can manage a complex project team which may include officers from the local authorities, possible in secondment, consultants from your own organisation and other consultants who may be working on individual elements of the scheme. This may include, but this is still subject to discussion.

Mouchells – Environmental Work

Motts – Transport Modelling

Counter Context – Public information and consultation

NPS and Cheshire East Officers leading on land issues.

The time management and cost control are crucial to the schemes eventual success and you will need to indicate how you intend to manage both of these elements. Your proposal should include proposed staff and an indication of the time/cost of the project management support you propose.

  1. Review of the scheme.

You are requested to review the progress of the scheme to date and recommend what works is required to progress the scheme to the submission of planning permission and beyond to construction on site. You will be able to access the existing scheme documentation and meet with internal officers and our existing consultations to help you undertake the review. Please contact Sue Stevenson of Stockport in the first instance with any requests for assistance as part of the proposal and presentation. Please indicate your view of the progress made to date and the future elements of work required to meet key milestones, e.g. approval of the MSBC submission of the planning application and commencement on site on accordance with the agreed programme. Please indicate how you can assist us with the remaining work required giving an indication of the time/costs and your staff who would be involved.

  1. DfT officers have indicated that they will require a Major Scheme Business Case to be submitted and approved within nine months from the 1st June 2009 for the scheme A6 – Airport. They have suggested that some of the existing business case could be required. Please indicate what you believe needs to be done, the assistance you can provide including the impact required from other consultants who may hold relevant information e.g. modelling, Environmental Assessment and a draft programme of how you would achieve the timescale indicated, costs for your assistance and the staff to be involved should also be included.
  1. A transport assessment will be required for the planning application. As part of the overall scheme a complimentary measures package was created to support the scheme, this needs to be reviewed with support from local authority staff probably in workshops. The workshops need to review the existing schemes and indentify others and then another workshop to review the proposed new scheme developed by the consultants. The package of measures needs to include mitigation and complimentary measures and be affordable, appropriate and achievable. The final package of measures must be a discrete document that can be referred to in the Modelling Environmental Assessment and Transport Assessment and must be completed in a time and manner which accommodates all these needs. The draft transport assessment needs to be completed for the public consultation in Spring 2010 and finalised before the planning application in Summer 2010.

Please include in your proposal the elements you would include in the TA, your approach to the creation of complimentary/mitigation measures packages and the proposed timescales, costs and staff involved.

General

It is intended that whilst work has already recommenced on the scheme that these elements of work will commence on the 1st September 2009 or earlier by agreement.

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Fri 25/09/2009 15:52

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I am writing in response to your request for information below (ref 2158).

The requested information is not held. No minutes were taken at the meeting.

If you are unhappy with the way we have handled your request you are entitled to ask for an internal review. Any internal review will be carried out by a senior member of staff who was not involved with your original request. To ask for an internal review, contact foi.officer@stockport.gov.uk in the first instance.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of any internal review, you are entitled to complain to the Information Commissioner. To do so, contact:

Information Commissioner’s Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

www.ico.gov.uk

01625 545 745

Yours sincerely,

Claire Naven

Claire Naven

Data Protection & Freedom of Information Officer

Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council


From: Sheila Oliver [mailto:sheilaoliver@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 02 September 2009 17:39
To: FOI Officer
Subject: SEMMMS FOIA and EIR 2004 request

Dear Ms Naven

“A number of meetings are programmed to discuss procurement methods and from initial views it appears that early contractor involvement benefits the scheme progression through the planning process. However experience of other schemes suggests that an element of competitive pricing must be introduced to ensure best value out of the process.”

Please may I have the minutes of those meetings by email.

Yours

Mrs S J Oliver

FOIC Stockport




Bypass – Yet Another Perfectly Valid Question.

Anwar Majothi, Barry Khan, Bypass, Uncategorised Posted on Thu, November 20, 2025 08:16

20th November 2025

Mon 07/09/2009 17:34

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I am writing in response to your request for information below (ref 2092).

Please find attached the information you requested.

If you are unhappy with the way we have handled your request you are entitled to ask for an internal review. Any internal review will be carried out by a senior member of staff who was not involved with your original request. To ask for an internal review, contact foi.officer@stockport.gov.uk in the first instance.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of any internal review, you are entitled to complain to the Information Commissioner. To do so, contact:

Information Commissioner’s Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

www.ico.gov.uk

01625 545 745

Yours sincerely,

Claire Naven

Claire Naven

Data Protection & Freedom of Information Officer

Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council


From: Sheila Oliver [mailto:sheilaoliver@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 10 August 2009 19:07
To: FOI Officer
Subject: A555 FOI and EIR 2004 request

Dear Ms Naven

From the SEMMMs meeting minutes 23/7/07 it was decided:-

“A meeting is to be held in Stockport to discuss the assessment of the retail

impact of development. It was agreed that Richard Bradley will attend, both in

respect of SEMMMS and his involvement in the town centre model.”

Please may I have the minutes of that meeting.

Kind regards

Sheila

Project:  Stockport Town Centre Modelling Support

Project Number:  C5011-00

Technical Note:  Transport Multi-Modal Modelling Overview

Introduction

Following the attendance of the Bridgefield Transport Modelling Workshop (Thursday 30th August 2007) Richard Bradley (ANSA Consultants) was requested to prepare an overview note providing brief details of the likely approach for multi-modal modelling of Stockport Town Centre.  This is contained in the discussion below.

Modelling Overview

Currently the Stockport Town Centre Modelling System (STCMS) includes 2006 weekday and Saturday Highway Assignment Models (HAMs), accompanied by a compatible 2003 weekday Public Transport Assignment Model (PTAM).  The HAM allows vehicle routing through the Stockport town centre area, and surrounding ‘areas of influence’, to be modelled.  The PTAM models the route public transport passengers are likely to take, including the choice of sub-modes walk, bus and rail.  Notably the PTAM does not include the capacity of vehicles, and therefore the effects of crowding are not modelled.

Current work includes the preparation of a Reference Case (RC) demand scenario, which represents a future year against which schemes can be assessed.  This includes preparing future year travel forecasts that have not been fully constrained to travel costs, at least at the local level.  It should be borne in mind that a plethora of traveller and land use choices are represented in the Greater Manchester Strategic Planning Model (GMSPM), used to provide ‘upper tier’ forecasts.  However, GMSPM is too strategic to properly represent traveller decisions at a level appropriate for local planning and scheme design, hence the need for STCMS.

An initial task to further enhance the STCMS is to update the weekday PTAM to 2006.  This should be possible using existing ticket information, passenger counts and service information.  If crowding is currently thought to be a problem in Stockport, or potentially one in the future (depending on the level of modal transfer), this task would present the best opportunity to introduce vehicle capacity, derived from GMPTE data. 

A further initial task is to prepare an automated mechanism to update the travel times in the PTAM to reflect those modelled in the HAM.  This would also allow highway infrastructure changes, represented in the HAM, to be automatically transferred to the PTAM.

These two initial tasks would allow the current and future year costs of travel to be properly derived, and these could be used to indicate levels of accessibility.  However, the separate use of the HAM and PTAM does not allow the transfer of passengers from the main modes of Car to PT to be understood, which would required the introduction of a demand model.  Demand models vary greatly in their level of sophistication and understanding the appropriate level of detail is important.  Therefore, it is proposed that the current ‘baseline’ demand for travel is analysed as well as the current and future travel costs and levels of accessibly, as derived from the HAM and PTAM.  The RC demand would also provide a forecast of travel demand, affectively aggregated by travel mode.  If there are significant increases in travel cost in a transport corridor or area with current or future high travel demand, and in particular if current highway congestion and delay is high, then a demand model is likely to be required. 

The demand model is likely to only require the modelling of main mode transfer and park and ride, in particular because of the role of GMSPM.  However, a steer from DfT will help determine whether this level of sophistication is appropriate.

The approached used to determine the need for a demand model can also be used to determine the need for a Saturday PTAM.  This approach requires the transport supply element of the Saturday PTAM to be assembled, which is expected to be relatively easy.  This would probably be best undertaken during the updating of the 2003 model to 2006. 

The 2006 Saturday ‘supply only’ PTAM would allow Saturday travel costs to be prepared, excluding the effects of crowding.  However, the travel demand would be a much more serious undertaking, including the need for passenger interview surveys.  It is therefore proposed that a decision is made as soon as possible as to the need for Saturday PT data collection.  It may be prudent to undertake such surveys this autumn in advance of this decision – to miss the autumn survey window would delay surveys to February 2008 at the earliest.



Corrupt Council Officers.

Uncategorised Posted on Wed, November 19, 2025 09:15

Thu 27/08/2009 16:07

Dear Mrs Oliver,

I acknowledge receipt of your recent emails. I will be considering the information as part of my investigation of your complaint.

Yours sincerely,

Anwar Majothi

Improvement & Performance Officer (Complaints)

Stockport MBC

Tel: 0161 474 3182


From: Sheila Oliver [mailto:sheilaoliver@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 22 August 2009 08:07
To: Anwar Majothi
Cc: mike carroll; Syd Lloyd; Gaz Butler; Cllr Sheila Bailey(EXT); Jennifer Williams; DAVID PENKETHMAN; peter.devine@gmwn.co.uk; Michael Warburton
Subject: Vexatious with knobs on

Dear Mr Majothi

As there are plans to declare me vexatious with knobs on on1st September (I forget the correct terminology), I had better get everything out in the open before then.

Please see the attached.  On October 5th 2005 the proposed school was to cost £5.5 million.  On December 12th 2005 it had risen to £7.5 million.  Why?  I can’t see from any of the FOI documents I have seen (after a massive battle in which Mr Andrew Webb said it would take 84 hours of council officer time to read and redact what turned out to be about four folders, which I knew from the outset to be a lie) anyone explaining or querying this massive jump.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

Mrs Sheila Oliver

Stockport’s Freedom of Information Campaigner

According to his LinkedIn profile, Anwar Majothi is now a Senior Adviser at the UK Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) as of June 2023.

Previously, he worked at Stockport Council as the Corporate Complaints Manager / Officer.



A LibDem Liar.

Uncategorised, Vale View School Posted on Tue, November 18, 2025 14:02

Email sent -Thu 30/07/2009 21:51

Dear Mr Stunell

Having ploughed further through your letter – I represent circa 800 people and have done for over 4 years (evidence available on request).

So, if in that time I have asked 140 questions on Harcourt Street,  then I have asked 0.0036458 questions per person I represent per month.  Not a lot, is it?

That puts the tin lid on that daft argument.

Kind regards

Sheila



Lisa Smart Photo-Op Of The Day 18th November 2025.

Uncategorised Posted on Tue, November 18, 2025 08:33

18th November 2025

LibDem MP Lisa Smart couldn’t care less about wildlife, as the case of Padden Brook shows. For 15 months she and her paid goons couldn’t have cared less about vital wildlife on this protected visual amenity land/W1 protected woodland untouched since the 1960s. Destroyed day by day whilst all she does is have photo-ops. Never vote LibDem if you value your green spaces.

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From this to this…



Perfectly Reasonable Requests About the Bypass.

Uncategorised Posted on Sun, November 16, 2025 16:34

16th November 2025

Email sent Sat 15/08/2009 10:33

Dear Ms Naven

From the same meeting of AGMA leaders 20/2/09:-

 “Furthermore, there is no headroom in the RFA to contribute towards its construction costs even when the current over-programming issue is resolved.”……..

“Based on a more realistic start of works date, the inflation-adjusted cost of the A555 MAELR scheme could rise to over £370m.  The RFA, local authorities and any third parties could therefore need to find over £205m, with the local authority contribution likely to be at least £20m, split between Manchester City Council, Stockport MBC and the new Cheshire East unitary authority.  For the scheme to proceed, the region will need assurances from the three local authorities that they are willing and able to provide sufficient funding to cover the local contribution.”

Please could I see those written assurances from Manchester City Council, Stockport SMBC and Cheshire East unitary authority that they are willing and able to provide sufficient funding to cover the local contribution.

Kind regards

Sheila

Emails sent Sat 15/08/2009 10:06

Dear Ms Naven

“The current estimated outturn cost of the A555 MAELR scheme is circa £325m (excluding optimism bias)”.

This quote is from the minutes of the meeting of AGMA Leaders 20/02/09.  How much is the scheme to cost including optimum bias?

Kind regards

Sheila

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Email sent Sat 15/08/2009 10:25

Dear Ms Naven

Please see below the quote from the minutes of the Meeting of AGMA leaders 20/2/09:-

“The current RFA programme includes £33.8m for preparation costs and purchase of land and property related to the full SEMMMS Relief Roads scheme owned by the Highways Agency.  For the A555 MAELR scheme, the Agency currently values its land and property portfolio at approximately £3m. 


A number of uncertainties remain with regard to the deliverability of the A555 MAELR scheme, not least whether the region is able to commit”

Is Stockport Council having to purchase the land owned by the Highways Agency for the entire SEMMMS Relief Road scheme?  Because, if so, in from the same document it states:

“there is no prospect of the region being able to afford the A6 Stockport North – South Bypass in the foreseeable future”

I have been quoted  by Stockport Council under the FOIA a cost of £69 million for purchase of land and compensation for the A555.  I wonder if you could clarify if this includes all the land owned by the Highways Agency for the entire SEMMMS road schemes.

Many thanks and kind regards

Sheila



MP Criticised for Photo Ops While Padden Brook Woodland Awaits Action.

Lisa Smart LibDem MP, Uncategorised Posted on Wed, October 29, 2025 14:05

29th October 2025

Romiley residents are voicing growing frustration over what they see as a lack of progress in protecting the W1-designated woodland and amenity site at Padden Brook—while local MP Lisa Smart continues to appear in publicity events.

The woodland, a much-valued green space within the community, has been the subject of concern for over 14 months. Campaigners say the area, officially recognised for its ecological and community importance, remains at risk due to stalled efforts to secure its long-term protection.

Meanwhile, residents have noted MP Smart’s recent participation in a number of high-profile photo opportunities, including her visible support for national health campaigns such as Radiotherapy UK’s “Catch Up With Cancer” initiative. While many praise the cause, others argue her priorities should also include urgent local environmental matters.

One resident told the Gazette: “We all support good national causes, but we’d like to see the same energy put into safeguarding our local spaces. Padden Brook has been left hanging for too long.”

Campaigners are calling for firm action from local and national representatives to preserve the woodland, warning that delays could result in permanent damage to the area’s natural character.

Requests for comment from Lisa Smart’s office had not been returned at the time of publication.



Tangshutts – hope this helps.

Draft Local Plan, Uncategorised Posted on Sat, October 18, 2025 07:47

18th October 2025

THE EPHRAIM HALLAM CHARITY
Legal addressC/O STOCKPORT LADS CLUB, HEMPSHAW LANE, STOCKPORT, SK1 4NT, United Kingdom

Did the above charity gift the land to local people?

TownshipRomiley
ParishStockport
Plot No.451
Owner(s)John Radcliffe
Occupier(s)John Radcliffe
Plot NameBrowy Pasture
Land UsePasture
AreaAcres 0, Roods 2, Perches 15
TownshipRomiley
ParishStockport
Plot No.440
Owner(s)John Radcliffe
Occupier(s)John Radcliffe
Plot NameFurther Croft
Land UsePasture
AreaAcres 2, Roods 3, Perches 0
TownshipRomiley
ParishStockport
Plot No.443
Owner(s)Ormrod Heyworth
Occupier(s)Ormrod Heyworth
Plot NameDingle Meadow
Land UseMeadow
AreaAcres 7, Roods 0, Perches 37
TownshipRomiley
ParishStockport
Plot No.454
Owner(s)Ormrod Heyworth
Occupier(s)Alexander Swindells
Plot NameRushy Field
Land UsePasture
AreaAcres 8, Roods 1, Perches 33
TownshipRomiley
ParishStockport
Plot No.442
Owner(s)Ormrod Heyworth
Occupier(s)Ormrod Heyworth
Plot NamePart of Dingle Meadow
Land UseWoodland
AreaAcres 1, Roods 0, Perches 9

🗺 1. Start with the Land Registry

️ Website: https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

  • You can search by postcode or map to find the current title.
  • For £3, you can download the Title Register, and for another £3, the Title Plan.
  • The register shows ownership, any restrictions, and sometimes notes on covenants or trusts (e.g. “held by XYZ Council as trustee for public recreation”).

Even if the land is registered to the council, wording like “held under Section 164 of the Public Health Act 1875” or “in trust for the public” signals community dedication.


🕰️ 2. If no Land Registry record exists

Many plots weren’t formally registered until the 1990s or 2000s.
In that case:

  • Check historic deeds in the County Record Office (for Romiley, that’s Cheshire Archives and Local Studies or possibly Greater Manchester Archives depending on boundary history).
  • Ask for any conveyances, indentures, or charitable trust deeds involving that plot.

Old solicitors’ copies, estate maps, or manorial records often survive there even if council files didn’t.


🏛️ 3. Charity Commission database

If the land was ever left “for the use of the people of Romiley” or similar wording, it might have been registered as a charitable trust.
Search here:
👉 https://www.gov.uk/find-charity-information

Try keywords like “Romiley”, “Padden Brook”, or “Recreation Ground”.
Older “Charity for the Recreation of Inhabitants” or “Village Field Trust” entries often cover donated land.


📚 4. Local newspapers and parish magazines

Search the British Newspaper Archive (https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/) or local library microfilm for coverage from the 1920s–1960s.
Articles like “Local Benefactor Donates Land to Villagers” or “Opening of Romiley Recreation Field” often document dedications that later went missing from official files.


🏘️ 5. Ask the Parish or Town Council directly

Even if Stockport Council’s records were lost, Romiley District or Parish Council (if one existed historically) may have minute books stored separately — sometimes in a local history society or church archive.
These often record gifts of land, agreements, and dedications.


🗂️ 6. Talk to the local history society

Romiley and nearby areas have active local historians.
Try:

  • Romiley Local History Society
  • Stockport Heritage Trust
    They often have unofficial copies of estate plans, tithe maps, or personal papers from benefactors.

🪶 7. If all else fails

If you can gather even partial evidence that the land was gifted “for the people” but has since been built on or sold, you can contact:

  • The Local Government Ombudsman (LGO), if the council may have misused trust land.
  • The Charity Commission, if it might have been charitable land.

They can sometimes investigate or request remaining documents.


If you tell me roughly where the Padden Brook site is (road name or grid ref) and what it’s used for now (e.g. housing site, park edge, etc.), I can outline exactly which archives and map series are most likely to hold clues — without you needing to pay for unnecessary searches. Would you like me to do that?

You said:

Would a forgotten charity be there on the charity register?

Here’s the short answer:

👉 Not necessarily.
A “forgotten” or very old charity might not appear on the current Charity Commission Register, even if it once existed.

But — there are still ways to trace it.


🧾 1. Why it might not show up

The Charity Commission’s online register only includes:

  • Charities that are currently active, or
  • Those that have been removed since around the 1990s, with digitised closure records.

So if the land was donated before, say, 1970, the charity might:

  • Have been merged or wound up quietly.
  • Been treated as parish or council trust land and never formally registered as a charity.
  • Been struck off the register before digital records began.

🕰️ 2. How to find “forgotten” charities anyway

a. Charity Commission’s historical archives

Email: historicalrecords@charitycommission.gov.uk
Give them:

  • The name of the parish (e.g. Romiley or Bredbury and Romiley).
  • Possible keywords (like “Padden Brook”, “Recreation Ground”, “Village Field”, “Open Space”).
    They can check archived paper records and tell you if a trust ever existed.

b. The National Archives

Search: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
Use terms like:

“Romiley charity land”, “Romiley recreation ground”, “trust deed”, “Stockport Rural District Council charity”.

Old Charity Commission case files from the 19th and 20th centuries are stored there under the CHAR reference series (e.g. CHAR 13/1234).


c. County Record Office

For Romiley, check Cheshire Archives and Local Studies, because Romiley was historically in Cheshire until 1974.
Ask for:

  • “Charity Trust deeds”
  • “Recreation ground conveyances”
  • “Parish property registers”

If the land was left “for the benefit of the inhabitants,” it often appears in those.


d. Parish or Church records

Many local charities were originally ecclesiastical (linked to parish vestries or churchwardens).
The church may have early trustees’ minutes or correspondence about land gifted “to the people of Romiley.”


📜 3. What to look for

If you find a deed or reference, key phrases include:

  • “To be held in trust for the use of the inhabitants of…”
  • “For recreation or pleasure grounds”
  • “Under the Allotments Act 1908” or “Open Spaces Act 1906”
  • “Charity for the Recreation of the Inhabitants”

Those confirm it was a community or charitable dedication.


✅ Summary

A “forgotten charity” might not appear on the online register, but:

  • The Charity Commission’s historical team,
  • County archives, and
  • The National Archives
    can still hold traces of it — often with the original trust deed or approval paperwork.

If you’d like, I can show you exactly how to word a short email to the Charity Commission’s historical records team to maximise your chances of a helpful reply.
Would you like me to draft that for you?

What if a developer wants to build on land that we are told was gifted to local people in the past. How can I check?

That’s an excellent — and very important — question.
If you’ve been told that land was gifted to the community, but a developer is now planning to build on it, there are clear ways to check whether the land was (or still is) held in trust for local people — and therefore not legally available for development without special processes.

Here’s how to investigate, step-by-step:


🧭 1. Find out who owns it now

Start with a Land Registry search (costs £3).
👉 https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

  • You can search by postcode, map, or nearby address.
  • Download the Title Register and Title Plan.

Look for:

  • “Proprietor”: the owner (e.g. “Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council” or a private company).
  • “Title Absolute” or “Possessory Title”: legal status.
  • “Restrictions” or “Covenants”: notes like

“The land is held in trust for the recreation of the inhabitants of Romiley.”
or
“Subject to a conveyance dated 19xx containing conditions as to use.”

Those phrases are gold — they show the land was gifted or dedicated to the public.


🕰️ 2. If the Title doesn’t mention a trust

That doesn’t mean there isn’t one. Many older gifts predate land registration.
Next, contact:

📁 Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

(because Romiley was historically in Cheshire)
👉 https://www.cheshirearchives.org.uk/

Ask for:

  • Any trust deeds, charity records, or conveyances mentioning the land or “Romiley Recreation Ground” / “Padden Brook”.
  • Parish council minutes or Rural District Council records (pre-1974).

Even if council files were destroyed, they may still hold solicitors’ copies or abstracts of title.


🏛️ 3. Check the Charity Commission

👉 https://www.gov.uk/find-charity-information

Search for charities with names like:

  • “Romiley Recreation Ground Trust”
  • “Romiley Village Field”
  • “Charity for the Recreation of Inhabitants of Romiley”

If nothing shows up, email the Charity Commission’s historical records team at
📩 historicalrecords@charitycommission.gov.uk
Give them:

  • The location or postcode.
  • The name of the council or parish.
  • Say you are trying to find out if the land was ever registered as charitable or trust land gifted to the public.

They can check their paper archives and tell you if a trust once existed.


🏘️ 4. Ask the Council under the Freedom of Information Act (FOI)

Submit an FOI request to Stockport Council asking:

“Please provide all records held regarding the ownership, transfer, or trust status of the land known as [exact location], including any documents showing that the land was gifted, held in trust, or dedicated for public use.”

They are required to respond within 20 working days.
Even if old files were destroyed, they might confirm when or how ownership changed.


🗺️ 5. Look for old evidence

Check:

  • Tithe maps (1836–1850s) — show land use and ownership.
  • OS maps (late 19th–20th century) — may label “Recreation Ground”, “Village Field”, etc.
  • Local newspapers — use the British Newspaper Archive to search for the land name + words like “donated”, “gifted”, or “opened”.

Articles about “the gift of land to the people of Romiley” are strong evidence of intention, even if the deed is missing.


⚖️ 6. If you discover it was community land

If it was gifted or held in trust:

  • The council (if the trustee) must get Charity Commission consent before selling or developing it.
  • Locals have the right to object or even apply to the Charity Commission to investigate.

If it was dedicated as public open space, planning law requires public notice and consultation before disposal (under the Local Government Act 1972, s.123(2A)).


🦊 7. If you’re unsure — practical tip

You can contact:

  • Open Spaces Society (https://www.oss.org.uk/)
    They help communities trace and protect gifted or trust land.
    They often know exactly which historical sources to check.

If you tell me:

  • The exact name or location of the site, and
  • Whether it’s council-owned or private (if known),

…I can show you precisely which record offices, archives, and legal sources to start with — and even draft a sample FOI or Charity Commission enquiry that you can send right away.

Would you like me to draft that next?

You said:

Do you know anything about this land? Township Romiley Parish Stockport Plot No. 442 Owner(s) Ormrod Heyworth Occupier(s) Ormrod Heyworth Plot Name Part of Dingle Meadow Land Use Woodland Area Acres 1, Roods 0, Perches 9

I couldn’t find any definitive public record in my quick search that absolutely proves or disproves the “gift to the community” status of Plot 442, Part of Dingle Meadow with owner/occupier “Ormrod Heyworth.” However, I found a few fragments that point in useful directions. These give clues you (or a researcher) can follow more deeply.

Here’s a summary of what turned up — and what I’d recommend doing next.


🔍 What I found so far

  • In a Church Lane, Romiley Conservation Area appraisal, there’s mention of tithe maps of 1849 showing plots “499-502 all owned by Ormrod Heyworth.” live-iag-static-assets.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com
    • That suggests the Heyworth family (or an “Or(r)mrod Heyworth” variant) had multiple landholdings in Romiley area, including around the vicinity of what became built or designated plots.
    • The fact this is in the conservation area appraisal means local planning / heritage officers were aware of these historic landholdings.
  • I could not locate a deed text, trust document, or historical charity listing in my cursory search linking Plot 442 Dingle Meadow to a community gift or trust status.
  • I also did not find it on major online charity registers or archives (in the limited time) under that plot name or the Heyworth name in relation to a public open space in Romiley.

So, in short: there is a historical connection of the Heyworth name to land ownership in Romiley, but no clear public evidence yet that Plot 442 was gifted, dedicated, or held on trust for the community.


🛠️ What to do next — how to go deeper

Because land gift / dedication evidence tends to live in deeper archival sources, here are steps to try:

Source / MethodWhat to Look ForRationale / Why Useful
County / local archives (e.g. Cheshire Archives)Conveyance deeds, trust documents, estate plans, manorial records for “Plot 442 / Dingle Meadow / Heyworth”These are the primary places old deeds, trust instruments and local land transaction records are kept
Tithe maps & apportionmentsThe record for 1849 (or earlier) will often show owner, occupier, land use, references (plot number)If the plot was listed as “meadow,” “woodland,” etc., and transfer of rights noted later, that might help
Abstracts of title / old solicitors’ filesChain of title documents for that plot that may include covenants or a gift clauseSometimes these survive in solicitors’ or private collections
Manorial recordsCourt rolls, court baron, surveysIf Dingle Meadow historically belonged to a manor, the manorial documents may show gifts or dedications
Local newspapers / press archivesAnnouncements of land gifts, dedications, disputes, or public meetingsMany land gifts were publicly celebrated or contested
Parish / district council minutes / minute booksIf the land was ever accepted by a local body for “public use,” it may be recorded in minutesEven if council archives were partially lost, these sometimes are held privately or in secondary stores
Historical charity / trust registersEven if not on modern online register, older paper registers, Charity Commission archives or National Archives may have a recordMany older trusts never made it into digital registers
Oral history / local history societySometimes local memory, history books, or private papers mention land giftsCould help you locate leads or names/dates to check in official archives

If you like, I can try to dig more deeply (in historic archives, maps, etc.) to see whether I can unearth a direct evidence link for Plot 442, Dingle Meadow being gifted to local people. Would you like me to do that for you?

I poked around what I could online, but didn’t turn up any smoking-gun evidence that Plot 442, Part of Dingle Meadow, Romiley was ever formally gifted to the community (or held in perpetuity as a trust). But I did find some useful historical threads, land-owner leads, and pointers you (or a local researcher) could follow to dig deeper.

Here’s what I found, plus suggested leads and how likely they might be.


🔍 What the online record suggests

Heyworth / Ormrod / Ormerod Heyworth connections

  • There is a mention of Ormerod Heyworth (1782–1851) in Romiley local history, especially in relation to the estate Oakwood Hall. The History of Stockport in 100 Halls+1
    • The History of Stockport in 100 Halls piece notes that Oakwood Hall was “built around 1844 for Ormerod Heyworth.” The History of Stockport in 100 Halls
    • That suggests the Heyworth family was a significant landowner in the area.
  • In local industrial history, “Oakwood Mill was built as a cotton mill by Ormerod Heyworth in 1837.” marplelocalhistorysociety.org.uk
  • So “Heyworth” (or variant spellings) show up as land / estate owners locally, making the name associated with property in the area.

This strengthens the plausibility that the “Heyworth / Ormrod Heyworth” you have as the “owner(s)” of Plot 442 might indeed be a historical landowner of standing (not a spurious name). But it doesn’t in itself prove any gift/dedication.


🧩 Gaps and missing evidence

  • I did not locate in my quick search any deed, conveyance, or trust instrument that names Plot 442, Dingle Meadow or that indicates that land was “gifted to the inhabitants” or “held in trust for public use.”
  • No reference in the sources I checked (e.g. local history blogs, archive snippets, industrial history) indicates that Dingle Meadow was used formally as a public open space under a gift or trust.
  • The sources are largely concerned with larger estates, mills, and houses, rather than small parcels designated for community use.

🛠️ How to advance your research (and likely succeed)

Because online sources are patchy for this kind of thing, here are specific archival steps likely to yield results:

  1. Visit / query Cheshire Archives & Local Studies
    • Search for “Ormrod / Ormerod / Heyworth — Romiley” in their archival catalogue.
    • Ask for estate maps, conveyance deeds, title abstracts, trust documents relating to “Dingle Meadow,” “Township of Romiley, plot 442.”
    • Check manorial records (if Romiley was part of a manor) to see if Dingle Meadow was part of the demesne or glebe, and whether any “gift” or “alienation” (transfer) appears.
  2. Historic Title Deeds / Abstracts of Title
    • Sometimes solicitors (especially in older estates) kept abstracts of title that trace back through many transfers. These might include clause by clause references (e.g. “This parcel was conveyed to the inhabitants by X in year Y”).
    • Some of those abstracts survive in archival collections, or in family papers.
  3. Historic Maps, Tithe & Apportionment Books
    • A tithe map / apportionment (often mid-19th century) will show the plot number, owner, occupier, and land use.
    • Comparing successive maps (e.g. 1840s, 1890s, early 20th century) may show a change in ownership or boundary.
    • Pay attention to any annotations on maps that say “Public” or “Recreation” or “Gifted to parish.”
  4. Parish / District / Council Minute Books
    • Even if the main council records were lost, sometimes parish minute books, vestry minutes, or rural district records survive in local archives or even in private collections (church vaults, local history societies).
    • Search for meetings where land transfers, donations, or acceptance of land for public use are recorded.
  5. Search local newspapers / historic press
    • Use the British Newspaper Archive or local library microfilms to look for announcements such as “Gift of meadow to the inhabitants of Romiley”, “Inauguration of public open ground”, or “Meeting re Dingle Meadow”.
    • Even small local announcements or legal notices can reveal where and when land was dedicated or transferred.
  6. Contact Local History Societies / Local Photographic Collections
    • The Romiley Local History Society (or equivalent) may have private documents, maps, or correspondences not yet digitised that reference the Dingle Meadow and any gift or trust.
    • Sometimes old photographs or postcards have captions like “This meadow was given to the people in year X” — that can lead you to archival sources.
  7. Search in National Archives / Charity Commission historic archives
    • If the land was ever turned into a formally registered charity, they might have deposit records in the National Archives or in older Charity Commission records (paper archives).
    • Contact the Charity Commission historical records team (as earlier suggested) with the names and plot description to see if there is a record of any trust set up for that land.
  8. Examine Boundary / Restriction Clauses in Later Title
    • When you obtain the current Title Register / Title Plan from Land Registry, check for “Restrictions” or “Covenants” on the title.
    • Sometimes even when the land is sold, the title will maintain a restrictive clause saying “the land shall be used for public recreation only” or “not to be built upon except by consent of local authority.”
    • If a restrictive covenant exists, trace back to when it was inserted — that insertion is often documented in a deed or conveyance.

If you like, I can try to search archival catalogues (e.g. Cheshire Archives catalogue) to see whether there is any listing for “Plot 442, Dingle Meadow, Romiley / Heyworth” and send you direct catalogue references you can use to request documents. Do you want me to see if I can find catalog listings or archival repository entries now?

TownshipRomiley
ParishStockport
Plot No.446
Owner(s)John Radcliffe
Occupier(s)John Radcliffe
Plot NameNearer Tang Shuts
Land UsePasture
AreaAcres 2, Roods 1, Perches 32

🏛 Charitable Contributions During His Lifetime

Ephraim Hallam was deeply involved in local philanthropy in Stockport and Romiley. He made significant donations to educational institutions, including Stockport Grammar School, and collaborated with Joseph Leigh to establish a local Technical School, which later became Stockport School. Additionally, he was a committed Methodist, teaching at Stockport Sunday School for many years and contributing generously to the construction of Mount Tabor Chapel near the Town Hall The History of Stockport in 100 Halls.

In 1897, Hallam intended to donate a piece of land adjacent to his mill to the town in celebration of Queen Victoria’s Jubilee. However, he passed away before this plan could be realized davenportstation.org.uk.


📜 The Ephraim Hallam Charity

Following his death in 1897, Hallam’s charitable intentions were formalized through the establishment of the Ephraim Hallam Charity. Registered under charity number 525975, this organization continues to operate today, providing grants for educational purposes, youth organizations, and support for the elderly in the Stockport area Charity Register.

The charity’s activities include:

  • Providing grants to charitable youth organizations.
  • Offering support to elderly individuals.
  • Awarding grants for educational purposes.

In the financial year ending 31 December 2023, the charity reported an income of £15,653 and an expenditure of £13,893, indicating its ongoing commitment to charitable activities Charity Register.


🏠 Legacy of Oakwood Hall

After Hallam’s death, Oakwood Hall and its estate were considered for various charitable purposes. Initially, there was a proposal to convert the hall into a sanatorium for Stockport workers, but this was opposed by local councils. The property was eventually sold and repurposed for different uses, including a Jesuit seminary and later a school The History of Stockport in 100 Halls.



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